I improved the Grand Wagoneer.

"not for canada - australian in disguise" (for-canada) 09/04/2020 at 15:08 • Filed to: None

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wpudvah: GTI, Super Beetle, now with more 80-Series > not for canada - australian in disguise 09/04/2020 at 15:13

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gave me a solid chuckle from the “my balls, my balls” photo cred. thank you, kind sir.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > not for canada - australian in disguise 09/04/2020 at 15:14

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I liked where that design was going but the build quality on those is so shitty. Give that some quality, a little bit of a Kaiser style grille and some better classic lines and it would be pretty cool.

HammerheadFistpunch > not for canada - australian in disguise 09/04/2020 at 15:16

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The commander was the right shape and the wrong...everything else.

not for canada - australian in disguise > HammerheadFistpunch 09/04/2020 at 15:36

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I find it funny how the Commander and Wagoneer both lift quite major cues from the Discovery. The Commander had the weird raised roof thing, and the Wagoneer’s rear is basically a blatant Discovery knockoff, just symm etrical.

I wonder how they’re going to make the Wagoneer even   more unreliable than the Discovery this time around.

adamftw > not for canada - australian in disguise 09/04/2020 at 15:40

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Oh how I wish this didn’t have such a terrible interior and fantastically bad  motor and transmission choices. It would have a crazy cult following.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > not for canada - australian in disguise 09/04/2020 at 15:42

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SHOTS FIRED

adamftw > HammerheadFistpunch 09/04/2020 at 15:44

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Quadra Drive was pretty spectacular when it came out, but yea that’s about it. 

Long_Voyager94 > HammerheadFistpunch 09/04/2020 at 16:03

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You know, my Ma has one in Hemi form. It’s really a nice place to spend time while having plenty of power for towing.

Long_Voyager94 > adamftw 09/04/2020 at 16:04

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The Hemi is fun in them.

Honestly the interior in the higher trims is a damn nice place to spend time.

HammerheadFistpunch > Long_Voyager94 09/04/2020 at 16:04

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I believe the later

Long_Voyager94 > HammerheadFistpunch 09/04/2020 at 16:23

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Sure it my be the 2000s layout Mopar dash, but the seats are amazingly comfortable, the seating position and controls are all laid out well, and they drive quite nice for a 3 row UV.

It’s actually pretty respectable on economy as well, she averages around 18.5 mpg in mixed driving with hers.

HammerheadFistpunch > Long_Voyager94 09/04/2020 at 16:30

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Well, I do respect quality seats I’ll give you that. My father in law bought his routan specifically because the seats and refuses to sell it.

onlytwowheels > not for canada - australian in disguise 09/04/2020 at 16:56

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That’s the new Commandeer.

Sovande > not for canada - australian in disguise 09/04/2020 at 17:55

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Those rear ends don't look alike. I'll concede that they are both at the back of the vehicle, but that's about where the similarity ends. 

Sovande > Long_Voyager94 09/04/2020 at 17:58

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That's a lot more interior trim colors than I ever want in a car. The seats should match the door cards or what are we even doing? 

ranwhenparked > not for canada - australian in disguise 09/04/2020 at 18:02

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Really, if there ever was a vehicle that justified going all full-blown retro, this was it. The whole Grand Wagoneer name and mystique is all about nostalgia. People aren’t paying crazy money to have old ones restored just because they want a big Jeep SUV to take the family to the lake, they’re doing it because they want a Grand Wagoneer to take the family to the lake.

I mean, it's an expensive SUV, it's going to sell well no matter what, but it does seem like it's missing a little something.

not for canada - australian in disguise > ranwhenparked 09/04/2020 at 19:27

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yeah they should’ve made it look like the 2007 jeep commander

adamftw > Long_Voyager94 09/04/2020 at 19:47

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That’s not terrible, I didn’t realize they facelifted the interior. My dad had an 05 WK and man it sucked inside. Hard plastic everywhere.

The Hemi is a fun motor, but it isn’t without faults  unfortunately. Far better than the 4.7 though.

adamftw > Sovande 09/04/2020 at 19:53

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Every American brand during that time did the same weird shit in interiors

Sovande > adamftw 09/04/2020 at 19:56

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Explains why I don't drive an American car from that era. It looks awful. 

facw > wpudvah: GTI, Super Beetle, now with more 80-Series 09/04/2020 at 20:27

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I realize there are plenty of balls on the internet (hopefully none of mine), but I associate it with this:

Long_Voyager94 > adamftw 09/08/2020 at 06:58

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Eh, the 4.7 is fine, assuming you maintain it properly.

The 06 Ram in our family has 263k miles, the only engine issue it’s had was needing a timing cover around 200k miles as it started leaking.

Otherwise it’s a torquey motor that gets good economy for a crew cab 4x4 pickup.

Long_Voyager94 > Sovande 09/08/2020 at 06:59

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My ma’s is all black with the “brown” leather seating. It’s a very nice look.

Like this:

Long_Voyager94 > HammerheadFistpunch 09/08/2020 at 07:00

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Hehehe, Routan........

Sovande > Long_Voyager94 09/08/2020 at 07:29

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Ye ah that look waaaaayyyy y nicer.